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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

Aloha,
Like many other users I have always had never been able to get the stairs that I want from ArchiCAD's internal Stair Tool or Stairmaker. For many years I have just modeled my stairs using the stab, column and roof tool.
Now I'm really trying to use ArchiCAD's built in Stair Tool and Stairmaker again to see if I can get them to work.
As an exercise I tried to make some simple stairs with 7"risers and 11" treads with now railing and no stringers. Just simple stairs. As a start I figured that I'd make a set of two tread, three riser freestanding steps with eiter of these tools. I figured if I could make these simple steps I would build on my sucess and make more complex stairs.

If I could make these simple steps I was going to make a couple of sets of straight stairs with 7"rises and 11" treads that would work for 9' stories and 10 stories. I never got that far.

I've been working on this all afternoon and I can't get it either the Stair Tool or Stairmaker to make these simple set of steps. I thought that this would be a snap.

I would be grateful if anyone can tell me how to use ArchiCAD's built in tools to make these simple stairs. Please give me step by step instructions and all of the settings to input.

Many thanks,
John

PS I wasn't sure whether to post this into this ongoing thread of start a new one.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

Come on, have some faith... Wink

Dreams only come true if we keep dreaming them.

I keep dreaming about a better StairMaker.
And visual GDL scripting (or I should say custom content creation).
And even better parametricity.
And even better modeling tools.
And Design Options.
And Revision Tools.
And Keynoting.
And lots of other things.

We need to keep asking so they understand that it is important.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

laszlonagy wrote:
Come on, have some faith... Wink

Dreams only come true if we keep dreaming them.

I keep dreaming about a better StairMaker.
And visual GDL scripting (or I should say custom content creation).
And even better parametricity.
And even better modeling tools.
And Design Options.
And Revision Tools.
And Keynoting.
And lots of other things.

We need to keep asking so they understand that it is important.



Idea At some point one needs to realize their dreams are of such a chimerical nature they can no longer be called dreams. These have passed the realm of fantasy even and considering that this and many other wishes have been kicking around since the escribe days one can only consider the belief that GS is really listening or prioritizes according to what is important to the users is almost delusional. Shocked

Personally I think an add-on for stairs is a bit of overkill and most real world stairs (by US standards anyway) can be created with an object if they would fix some of the anomalies that have persisted with some of the 3D elements, most problematic for me is the TUBE, so that it really can sweep along a space curve path "without distortion of the generating cross-section" or making a flat surface appear curved in 3D and rendering. While I believe at this point it would be too little too late they should have created a stand alone GDL editor years ago and expanded their market to include manufacturers so they could have moved away from the library creation and focused their attention on other things. Better documentation and examples would be helpful too.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

laszlonagy wrote:
Come on, have some faith... Wink

Dreams only come true if we keep dreaming them.

I keep dreaming about a better StairMaker.
And visual GDL scripting (or I should say custom content creation).
And even better parametricity.
And even better modeling tools.
And Design Options.
And Revision Tools.
And Keynoting.
And lots of other things.

We need to keep asking so they understand that it is important.


you are right!
Keep on dreaming
With 16's stairmaker, stairs are flying!
I remember "another day in Piranesi"
Now, it's "another bug in stairmaker" Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

I am impressed with all of the advances in Archicad, even in the stand alone version. Yet one of the most basic building elements, the stairs, only works sometimes and that's through trial and error. Please fix this basic tool next. It is well behind the rest of the software advances.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

denmarch wrote:
I am impressed with all of the advances in Archicad, even in the stand alone version. Yet one of the most basic building elements, the stairs, only works sometimes and that's through trial and error. Please fix this basic tool next. It is well behind the rest of the software advances.

Denmarch


I feel your pain mate. This is one tool that desperately needs to be looked at. My company will not pay for Cadimage in Australia, yet ask for sections of staircases on a regular basis.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

and to add another thing:
now that we have Partial Structure Display, it is silly that stairs do not participate in it

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

I agree.
Further ... I think that every tool should follow the partial display options.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: stair maker Reply with quote

I don't know the rules which Graphisoft is following to decide what is worth being developing them...


Look at the first date of this task!

And here some other facts about the user wishes:

A few Years ago i programmd a simle GDL-demo-Object of how a Archicad-stair should behave to the User.

downloadable within Archicad in the Objects-Dialog under:
https://bimcomponents.com/GSM/Details/14707

As You see - until today 447 downloads of this part are telling for itself.

The (just only german) Tutorial Vid has benn watched 2500 times!


NOT included in these calculations there are the pre-versions!

I really think - some of the shown features schould be in a possible new stairmaker - because the costumers have such a huge interested at this topic!

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