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upintheclouds
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Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: france
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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Im very fond of Archicad, and feel its a great product. I respect the fact that its a small company trying to survive against much bigger fish.
It heart breaking to see 80 of the product very well setup, only to be let down by the last 20 percent which could I feel be mostly rectified.
I very often have the impression that m using a a product built to the mentality of software engineers, not architects. Some thing about setup and nature of the user interface doesnt feel intuitive or freindly to architects or designers.
My dream is that GS will make a gift to the loyal Archicad community and turn over an upcoming version of archicad (15?) for the community to have control over the upgrade, giving them/us 2 years to do it. I feel the out come could be revolutionary for Archicad. _________________ www.Bohemiaeco.com
Windows Vista 32, windows 7 64, Archicad 13, quadcore 2.4 ghz, 3 Mb Ram, GeForce FX 9500, hp 1502 17 inch LCD screen. |
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ksymons19
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 Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 146 Location: St Louis
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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| upintheclouds wrote: |
I very often have the impression that m using a a product built to the mentality of software engineers, not architects. Some thing about setup and nature of the user interface doesnt feel intuitive or freindly to architects or designers.
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Have you worked with Revit?  _________________ ArchiCAD 12 (Build 2675) US
ArchiCAD 13 (Build 3600) US
ArchiCAD 14 (Build 3004) US on Windows XP 32-Bit
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rwallis
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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It is easy to get caught on the UI but I'd rather see GS working on more core foundational aspects of the software.
We now have a teamwork solution that is vastly improved.
How about swinging those resources to update the 3d engine behind the scenes - a real and robust 3d tool set that can do things like nurbs etc - and where we can set up relationships between elements?
This one is big as it's ramifications are right through the software... _________________ rtw
ac14 - cadimage design suite - maxwell - artlantis
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Dennis Lee
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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We have to give credit to GS for "wow"ing us with the TW2 for AC13. They took the teamwork concept to a level that no other software had, and no user had anticipated or asked for. I Hope this kind of surprise factor continues with AC14 for either modeling / and or GDL portion of the software. _________________ ArchiCAD 13 3000 USA
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lec1212
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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"no user had anticipated or asked for."
That's what scares me. _________________ lec
Really just a Veteran Beginner
10,11,12(2782),13in the box, 14slow?,(oh yeh)
15 to the rescue?
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NeckoFromSarajevo
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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| lec1212 wrote: | "no user had anticipated or asked for."
That's what scares me. |
me 2
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9800 GTX 512 MB
Core2Duo E8200 - 2.66/1333/6MB
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archicad - program with 2 much workarounds |
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Dennis Lee
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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I should have known some of you will take it that way.  _________________ ArchiCAD 13 3000 USA
Core 2 Quad 2.83Ghz 3GB RAM NVidia 8600 GTS 256 MB PCI-E
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Bricklyne Clarence
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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| Dennis Lee wrote: | I should have known some of you will take it that way.  |
To be fair, those (TW2 and even the CW tool) weren't the most eagerly or popularly requested improvements in the program from the Wishlist forums, nor have they been requested that much in these forums in general for the last couple of versions now. |
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Dwight
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 Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 6567 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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Call me cynical, but I don't know why users think their wishes are important to Graphisoft: users have already bought the application!
Think of Graphisoft like a tardy kitchen renovator. Once he's got your job, he needs to keep getting new jobs. You need to threaten to sue for the guy to show up to finish the trim. That's why they made hold-backs.
I'm as annoyed as any other user with Archicad's outdated interfaces [like, man!!, from the last century, even, fer crissake!], lousy [!!!!!!!] renderer and weak [non] free-form modeling, but I understand that when Graphisoft uses their resources to move outward into fresh marketing areas, the trim bits wait. Dang: with a deficiency list this long, where's the holdback when we need it? _________________ Dwight Atkinson
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rwallis
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Archicad 14 |
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Seconded - Dwight - I heartily agree.
When do we reach the tipping point?
-minimal new users as the software is seen as not competitive
-current users defect to other software that does the whole 'shebang'? _________________ rtw
ac14 - cadimage design suite - maxwell - artlantis
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