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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

Hi!

Ok, i know, I'm posting too much "other products" links....at least we keep updated Wink ( Autodesk is even launching 2011 products !?)

So an update to the last year post Wink :

Revit 2011
http://autodesk-revit.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-new-in-revt-architecture-2011.html

this version seems to fix the ui interface problem, complete the "missing" options for the new freeform modeling tool (which i think is great) ...(no multithreading yet ?! )..and textured view option ...etc.

Autocad2011
http://www.cadalyst.com/cad/autocad/autocad-2011-a-look-what039s-new-13200

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

This release is huge, really huge. I think they have almost bridge the gap with Archicad. Archicad has always been a few release ahead of Revit, but with this release, Revit is almost on the same playing field as Archicad.

http://autodesk-revit.blogspot.com/
http://bimboom.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/AutodeskBuilding
http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0Bz01oraxIz0ZZDYxMmM3M2MtNjgwZi00NjI3LTkxMzMtZjFmNzE0NjVhOGM4&sort=name&layout=list
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

lets cry together


i love Adaptive Components

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

Yes Blobmeister, Autodesk in term of parametric modeling tool has a great advantage over its concurents , they have recruited the person behind generative componenst and IMHO "he"* is acheiving great things in Revit ( it's almost the "intelligent" freeform modeling I imagined GS would acheive )... Crying or Very sad Wink

this said there are also things that should be fixed in Revit, even in area where it seems ahead (3d) , working in the 3d window ( except for the concptual massing tool ) is not as developped yet as in ArchiCAD. however , Autodesk is "beginning" to solve the problem in this version (but not rnough to work in the 3d window imho) .
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

So the ever-rabid sales-driven world of Autode$k is calling this ArchicadFAIL...

See http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2010/03/archicadfail-forum-post-and-comparison.html

While this is not the official voice of Autodesk, I think there's more than just a warning shot that's been fired across your collective bow.

There are some of you on this forum who use ArchiCAD so that you stay clear of the Autodesk realm - that's fine. Good on you! But at the same time, Revit's development is continuing at a steady rate. I can say nothing about Revit 2011 (we're beta testing it) except that I expect it to be very popular with users -- and 2011 will look even more tempting to would-be buyers than any prior release. The new "adaptive components" are pretty cool, but I wouldn't necessarily attribute the release of these components to the arrival of Robert Aish at Autodesk: the programming crew at Autodesk were more than capable of this sort of thing without Aish!

Autodesk wants nothing more than complete world domination. So: Graphisoft needs to pull out the stops now. I don't really know where Revit is weakest -- perhaps IFC and Revit MEP, which is still not yet a mature product compared to other apps out there, though in North America, the MEP market is largely still using AutoCAD, so it's likely they'll migrate to Revit MEP before any superior products that are out there.

Whatever. I'd like to see the playing field leveled better in North America, and I'd like to see AC continue its development and maintain its success as the first building modeler for the PC.

Go ArchiCAD go!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

metanoia wrote:
So the ever-rabid sales-driven world of Autode$k is calling this ArchicadFAIL...

See http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2010/03/archicadfail-forum-post-and-comparison.html

While this is not the official voice of Autodesk, I think there's more than just a warning shot that's been fired across your collective bow.


This is why most ArchiCAD users (like myself) don't follow the Revit blogs... They are mostly regurgitating the Autodesk rhetoric that is used by their sales force. Most of this guy's "ArchiCADFAIL" comparisons are false or incorrect.

I have reviewed Revit 2010 both Architecture and MEP (haven't seen 2011 yet)... I still don't see how Revit users can compare their product with ArchiCAD without even downloading the free trial version to do "accurate" comparisons.

There have been some interesting threads in a couple of different LinkedIn groups that have users openly debating the different software packages. These threads give more believable comparisons than the ones you read on the Revit or Autodesk-sponsored blogs.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

Heh -- well, Greg Arkin's blog is good for tracking new product releases from Autodesk. But I did chuckle at the FAIL post Wink

It does show that what you complain about here will be used as fodder by your competitors.

And it's part of why I'm here too: to keep the story straight. You can't always believe what you read...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

Wes,

I (and I'm not alone) have always appreciated and respected your posts here (as well as other sites). I am always trying to objectively research other software alternatives and technologies that will better my chosen profession. Your objectivity between ArchiCAD and Revit has always been a good basis for discussions and debate. Keep up the good (and objective) fight.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

David Larrew wrote:
Wes,

I (and I'm not alone) have always appreciated and respected your posts here (as well as other sites). I am always trying to objectively research other software alternatives and technologies that will better my chosen profession. Your objectivity between ArchiCAD and Revit has always been a good basis for discussions and debate. Keep up the good (and objective) fight.

Second that.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revit 2011 & Autocad 2011 Reply with quote

Rod Jurich wrote:
David Larrew wrote:
Wes,

I (and I'm not alone) have always appreciated and respected your posts here (as well as other sites). I am always trying to objectively research other software alternatives and technologies that will better my chosen profession. Your objectivity between ArchiCAD and Revit has always been a good basis for discussions and debate. Keep up the good (and objective) fight.


Second that.


I "third" that. Smile

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