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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

I need to build a "honeycomb" wall, but have no idea how to build it in ArchiCad. The attach render has been made in Revit.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

The solution: Complex Profile!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Draw a complex profile fill corresponding exactly to the elevational view you desire.

Create a complex profile wall and draw it PERPENDICULAR to the facade direction.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Or draw the wall normally. Make a complex profile corresponding to the hole pattern (this could be initially drawn with fills on the elevation and then copied into the complex profile manager). Use that as the operator in a SEO to cut the holes out. This way the original wall has it's reference line along it's length and can receive doors, windows, etc. like any other wall.

OR...

if there's an empty window in ArchiCAD that is the right shape (which would be very easy to make without any GDL knowledge; there's a great tutorial somewhere on the forum that I've used), you could add lots of empty windows to a regular wall. Then they'd show up nicely in plan. Though that might be insanely cumbersome in this case with so many holes.

Lots of options.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

JaredBanks wrote:
Use that as the operator in a SEO to cut the holes out.


Or make the operator(s) beams and the holes are automatic.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Complex profile as SEO cutter is better than making the wall as a complex profile AND allows arrangement using the elevation as a cue. This simplifies editing.

Placing windows, beams or whatever individually has the drawback of only being placed in plan view and then pulled into place. This seems like more work and more cumbersome editing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Dwight wrote:
Complex profile as SEO cutter is better than making the wall as a complex profile AND allows arrangement using the elevation as a cue. This simplifies editing.

Placing windows, beams or whatever individually has the drawback of only being placed in plan view and then pulled into place. This seems like more work and more cumbersome editing.


I just meant that using a CP beam cuts the wall automatically eliminating the need for the SEO.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

No criticism intended.

The complex profile allows for 'ganging' operations of the kind we're discussing and it is important to emphasize the ease of editing combined with the elevation layout aspect for productivity.

NOW: If only we could Trace reference views in the Complex Profile window. THAT would increase productivity!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Dwight wrote:
NOW: If only we could Trace reference views in the Complex Profile window. THAT would increase productivity!


That would be awesome.

I like the idea of using the beam to cut the holes. Though it should be noted that you need to make sure the intersection groups and layers work correctly.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Something like this?
I use only columns and walls with some SEO's on the ends.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Honeycomb Wall Reply with quote

Just to be clear...

These openings are made with three beams automatically punching through the one wall. The nearest beam is shown in wireframe. Of course the same effect could be accomplished with a single profiled beam or arrays of simple ones. I have used squares for speed and simplicity. The shapes could be just about anything.

Of course after all this about beams and auto-intersection, there may be performance advantages to the SEOs. I haven't tested this.



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