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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:34 am    Post subject: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

Hi.

Has anyone else worked out a quick and easy way to do this?

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The convention, in South Africa at least (not too sure about the rest of the world), for showing new timber in section is with a cross from corner to corner, but I have to touch up "by hand" all my purlins, rafters, wall plates, etc, etc, etc in section and it can be a bit tedious. I thought I might be able to create a new fill that could stretch to fill the cut surface rather than tile, but that doesn't seem to be possible.

Any suggestions?



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

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The convention, in South Africa at least (not too sure about the rest of the world), for showing new timber in section is with a cross from corner to corner[]. Any suggestions?

Try modelling the framing with OBJECTiVE. Many of the timber objects bundled with the software provide an option to show a single or double line in section (see image).



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

Thanks Ralph for the suggestion. That's exactly what I want to do!

But $300 is a bit steep just to hatch a few timber sections (although I'm sure the software does a lot more than that too.)

Surely there must be an easier (cheaper) way to do this in ArchiCAD itself?
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

It can be done with complex profiles. And I know it has been discussed here before as I was part of one of the conversations. Try a search with complex profiles and top plates and/or studs.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

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But $300 is a bit steep just to hatch a few timber sections (although I'm sure the software does a lot more than that too.)


Try this exercise:

Estimate how much time you typically would spend per project manually adding cross lines to plan/section drawings (and make allowance for manually adjusting these lines when the client wants 'minor changes' late in the documentation process) and multiply this by your standard hourly rate for drafting/documentation.

I suspect you will find that the investment pays for itself by the first project, without even considering all the other features.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

kombibob wrote:

Try this exercise:

Estimate how much time you typically would spend per project manually adding cross lines to plan/section drawings (and make allowance for manually adjusting these lines when the client wants 'minor changes' late in the documentation process) and multiply this by your standard hourly rate for drafting/documentation.

I suspect you will find that the investment pays for itself by the first project, without even considering all the other features.

Except if he's billing hourly, he'll LOSE money by being efficient. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

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Except if he's billing hourly, he'll LOSE money by being efficient. Wink


Depends on how you determine your hourly rate - if you are being realistic, it should include for operational costs, including software upgrades and subscription.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

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Except if he's billing hourly, he'll LOSE money by being efficient. Wink


Depends on how you determine your hourly rate - if you are being realistic, it should include for operational costs, including software upgrades and subscription.

Okay, guess I should have said "He'll make LESS money by being efficient."

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

Thanks Link, I had done a search before posting and saw some things about using custom profiles, but it would still be nice if there was a simple fill that could be streched rather than tiled, or something to that effect, which could be used with all ArchiCAD elements; the curtain wall, roof wizard, objects, beams, slabs etc; rather than always having to model up any timber I need with custom profiles.

And thanks Richard, I had a laugh despite it going over some people's heads.. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Fill timber sections with an 'x' Reply with quote

I'd be very keen to learn how to do this as well. I believe it is achievable in Revit.
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