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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

I have some pipework that disappears on plan when the end elevation is set past a certain height below slab.

My floor plan cut plane is set to show 3 stories below, offset by -5000 mm. The pipe is set to show on all stories. Renovation filters are not affecting it.

In 3D if I raise the end elevation of the pipe as shown in the attached screenshots, it appears in plan. When I lower the end of the pipe below a certain elevation, it disappears on plan, but can still be selected and still shows the end grips as seen in the attached screenshot.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

I don't seem to be able to attach 2 images to the same post, so here is a 3D view for clarity.

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I have some pipework that disappears on plan when the end elevation is set past a certain height below slab.

My floor plan cut plane is set to show 3 stories below, offset by -5000 mm. The pipe is set to show on all stories. Renovation filters are not affecting it.

In 3D if I raise the end elevation of the pipe as shown in the attached screenshots, it appears in plan. When I lower the end of the pipe below a certain elevation, it disappears on plan, but can still be selected and still shows the end grips as seen in the attached screenshot.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

The attached image perhaps shows it more clearly.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

There are a lot of issues with MEP and it seems one of those things that has dropped off Graphisoft's radar. Disappearing sloping pipes/ducts is just one of many things that doesn't work right.

I find that ducts and pipes jump stories disappearing sometimes on 1 or 2 stories away from their origins. Using All Stories or One storey Up/Down seems to compound the issue. Changing duct or pipe specific visual properties wipes out the system they belong to and sets them "undefined". I could go into a lot of it but suffice to say that despite Graphisoft's move to 3D working & documentation shift MEP isn't it.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

Yes, these are some of the issues I've encountered as I begin our first project producing MEP documentation in house, based on a 3D model.

gpowless wrote:
There are a lot of issues with MEP and it seems one of those things that has dropped off Graphisoft's radar. Disappearing sloping pipes/ducts is just one of many things that doesn't work right.

I find that ducts and pipes jump stories disappearing sometimes on 1 or 2 stories away from their origins. Using All Stories or One storey Up/Down seems to compound the issue. Changing duct or pipe specific visual properties wipes out the system they belong to and sets them "undefined". I could go into a lot of it but suffice to say that despite Graphisoft's move to 3D working & documentation shift MEP isn't it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

I'm new in MEP modeler world ...
what about setting the display as symbolic instead of all relevant stories?
In this way I solved some issue

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

alemanda wrote:
what about setting the display as symbolic instead of all relevant stories?

I'm not sure I understand. The pipe object does not have a symbolic display option.

In my experience even if I set the pipe to display on All Stories, it is not visible on any story. I can select it, but the object does not show.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

you have symbolic view.
CTRL+T to open settings of your pipe part.
See "all parameters"
Go to "2D representation" and enable the symbolic view.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan Reply with quote

alemanda wrote:
you have symbolic view.
CTRL+T to open settings of your pipe part.
See "all parameters"
Go to "2D representation" and enable the symbolic view.


Ah, thank you!

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