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By Mjules
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@ Jl_lt and Karl,

I hope so! I am working hard on that.
Last edited by Mjules on Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Erwin Edel
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I have yet to touch AC24, however our resellers subscription scheme comes with a lot of content they add for the Dutch market and a fairly robust template that we've based our own off many years ago. Upgrading our template is fairly do-able from version to version. This alone makes it worth the price.

I'm hoping for some 'killer' addition to AC25 or some quality of life improvements here and there.

AC23 does well, though some bugs have still not been fixed... (explode imported drawing DWG that ends up with new renovation status... I'm looking at you!)

It does seem 'rude' to be send the bill for the new year which incl. the renewal without knowing up front what you are paying for. AC24 already felt like paying for half a product...
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i agree with the whole sentiment. the current pricing method feels too big of an upfront investment - speaking as a small office, i dont feel comfortable 'betting' on the features that are going to be announced. i've previously created a poll about wishing for a more transparent and visible development roadmap. i think more support on the issue might finally make AC pay more attention to this need. You can vote on the poll here
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By Braza
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My 2 Cents.
I understand that having to pay in advance makes users feel like the horse with the hanging carrot. :twisted:
Unfortunately, for a company with the size of Graphisoft playing in the global market, the continuous amount of financial resource is essential. Specially if you are trying to gain momentum over a giant like Autodesk. I am afraid that this policy will remain for a while until GS gains enough user base to support its ambitious plan. It is a price users will have to pay to have a software that actually helps in their day-to-day workflows. That is why I am in favor for a Software as a Service (SaaS) strategy for Archicad. It would considerably reduce software deployment and support costs. And if we could pay for Archicad the same we pay for Netflix (regarding the proportions :wink: ) it would be awesome, isn't it? :D
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By runxel
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Braza wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:18 pm And if we could pay for Archicad the same we pay for Netflix (regarding the proportions :wink: ) it would be awesome, isn't it? :D
You already can and no, that's not really awesome, and I'm thankful that GS didn't go this route.
See, what happens, if you suddenly can't pay your monthly fee? Bam, you can't edit your projects any longer.
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By Braza
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Yes. There must be an option for at least visualize and share existing projects.
But if the cost was the same as Netflix (+-10 Euro monthly I presume. As I don't use it :mrgreen: ) it would be really hard for an active Architect not to use the serviçe. :)
I also know that there are a lot of security/privacy concerns regarding any SaaS solution. In this case, I usually use the email analogy: How many of us use Gmail?... And how many of us can't sleep well just imagining that their emails may be at risk on a Google server? :)
By jl_lt
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im also against the software as a service concept. mainly on principle. what is this obsession of always being up to date anyway? the constant mingling and updating of the software WITHOUT your permission is annoying in the very best of scenarios.

more distressing though are the perils of complacency, which lurk in the dark when companies receive constant influxes of cash without having done enough to deserve it
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jl_lt wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:26 pm im also against the software as a service concept. mainly on principle. what is this obsession of always being up to date anyway? the constant mingling and updating of the software WITHOUT your permission is annoying in the very best of scenarios.

Just to clarify, Archicad does not update anything without your permission.
Yes they provide the updates, but it is up to you as the user if you install them or not.

Barry.
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By Lingwisyer
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Braza wrote:And if we could pay for Archicad the same we pay for Netflix (regarding the proportions )

Proportions? Of what? AC rental is available as far as I know and is like 20x the price of Netflix.