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By deivarch
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It's been a long time since there was any discussion on the topic of Graphisoft porting to Linux. Seems like to me, it would be a very useful thing as I hate using Windows because of how horrifyingly bad the graphics are relative to screen text rendering on 4K monitors. Currently, I'm using a "Hackintosh" as my main driver as it allows me to get a high-end performance for much less money, but sometimes I have to admit it'd be easier to have Linux as drivers would actually work for all my hardware and not just 90% of it. Linux has come a long way in the ten years since the most recent post on this forum I could find on this topic and just wondered if it is time to re-open that discussion.
By Bricklyne Clarence
#307706
Flogging a dead horse (IMHO).

I'm sorry to say that I just don't believe it will ever happen.
The ROI (return on investment) for Graphisoft just wouldn't justify it,

What percentage of users do you think are Linux users?
(bear in mind and consider the fact that among ALL computer users, Windows users account for anywhere between 90-94% of users, while Mac users are between 4-7% (this is TOTAL users. Among architects the share might be higher since Macs are more popular among architects and designers and creative types, but PC's are still overwhelming majority). So I'll leave you to figure what percentage of "the rest" are Linux versus Chromebook and Chrome O/S and "other".

The point here being that to port it into a different OS would require on their end to invest the resources to keep it current, to maintain any existing versions, troubleshooting issues and basically keeping a whole division running just to make sure there's a consistent standard among all the OS versions. And then you have to ask whether the number of people purchasing a Linux licence will justify (on their end) the overhead and cost of keeping this port running. My instinct says no.

They barely have a consistency in standard and quality between the Mac and Windows versions, and the Max version with such a (comparatively) smaller user base is justified in part because ArchiCAD started out as a Mac program and there's a sense that the folks at GS HQ in Budapest are huge Mac fanboys.

Effectively it would likely mean that Windows users are subsidizing the Linux ported version (just as they likely also currently are - to a lesser extent - the Mac version). But that's not really where the big issue for them would lie.

They would need to find a fair number of Linux developers and engineers to do all this, and that's not a very wide net of programmers out there from which to pick.
Which in turn probably also means that whichever they are able to get likely will cost them a premium to pay (over what they would be paying the other Windows and Mac-based developers.).

There's a reason why a lot of software firms don't have Linux versions of their programs and it isn't just that there aren't a lot of Linux users of their programs to sell to (even as big of an issue and a problem as that already is).

But I could be wrong and they could find a way to make the numbers work.
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By Moonlight
#307715
There is another way, it's jankie but I´m sure you will be able to see the bright side of it



And if you don't want to compromise Linux, PC, & Mac
By deivarch
#307894
Moonlight wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:17 am
There is another way, it's jankie but I´m sure you will be able to see the bright side of it



And if you don't want to compromise Linux, PC, & Mac
Love the reference to Linus. I've been on a Hackintosh for about a year now. I just worry that someday Apple is going to screw us Hackintoshers with switching to ARM processors. But yes, I've seen that video before and in a future custom built desktop, I plan to try the Linux/Hackintosh combo build he and SnazzyLabs have shown on their YouTube channels with the aim of using AMD's Ryzen Threadripper instead of the more expensive and slower Intel chips. We'll see. Thanks for the post.
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By Moonlight
#307896
@deivarch

There're other videos for Linus for Hackintoch using Ryzen CPU, but since it would take me a lot of time to get them, I posted these as a reference ...

About Ryzen CPU being faster than Intel, well I can't comment, but since Ryzen (usually) have more cores and threads than Intel, I guess it would make a better use of them, since that ArchiCAD is multithreaded.
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By Moonlight
#307897
@deivarch

I also advise you to see Techdeals on Youtube if you're going to build your PC from off the self components, he may be oriented towards gaming, but his advise about what the performance of different components and price comparison helps a lot to get more bang to your buck. :D