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By GraemeB
#313096
sboydturner wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:47 am
GraemeB wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:27 am
Yep - I'm off the train - cancelled my subscription a few months ago. ... Goodbye Graphisoft.
Graeme, what BIM solution would you use then?
Revit? Autodesk seems to be on a path of licensing per user per project all cloud based to keep you committed to a subscription to keep access to your data.
Vectorworks? Very much a niche product.
Digital Project? Very capable, very expensive and makes Vectorworks user base look huge.
Bentley Aecosim?

For me Archicad is the best solution available today giving good tools, workflows, interface etc to allow me to deliver projects from small fitouts to hospital redevelopments.

Scott
Scott,
I am still using Archicad 23 - I am just no longer going to update it. It is a lot of money for me and the benefits are simply not worth it. The last 3-4 years have all been disappointing for me in terms of Archicad 'improvements'.
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By Rex Maximilian
#313097
Richard Morrison wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 pm
...users have been shouting, "Stop with all the new features, and just fix what we've already got."
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Hi Richard. I can't recall a consensus of users "not" wanting new features in a new release. As far as fixing what we've got, that's what hotfixes are for; not upgrades/new releases.

I just don't see the benefits that a small firm gets by shelling out $800 per license except "not" to get gouged when v25 comes out by being over a version behind.
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By RandyC
#313098
It seems like we update without knowing what the new release is going to bring
-- not always what we want or need --
I think the secretive way graphisoft does releases creates the problem .
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By Richard Morrison
#313107
Rex Maximilian wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:18 am
I just don't see the benefits that a small firm gets by shelling out $800 per license except "not" to get gouged when v25 comes out by being over a version behind.
But hey, there were all those new furniture objects! :roll:
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By Stress Co.
#313117
Richard Morrison wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:40 am
Rex Maximilian wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:18 am
I just don't see the benefits that a small firm gets by shelling out $800 per license except "not" to get gouged when v25 comes out by being over a version behind.
But hey, there were all those new furniture objects! :roll:

And those 2 panel doors with the huge beveled panels that can't be adjusted.
Oh, wait... those are the same doors from version 9.

Seriously... all I want for version 25 is a revamped
window/door tool... á la CI tools, but better.
By scraptrash
#313119
I like this 24 release very much and i think its implication to architectural practice would be huge.
Few years ago I chatted with graphisoft’s local rep that we both agreed that architects should take back leadership role in the construction industry.
In order for it to happen, architects need to know literally everything about the building. The key thing here is Information. Whoever knows the most information about the building will be the natural leader of the project. It doesn’t matter whether that person’s role is architect or engineer or manager.
These days I see our practice try hard to diminish our scope (due to diminishing fee) in the design process, like MEP thing is not their business, landscape architect would take care of the design outside the building, environmental analysis should be done by environmental consultants...etc.

Comparing to revit, this release does offer some intuitive, efficient and effective way for architect to have more control and information of the design process. Track changes is a must have. Exporting SAM is a must. Auto-wall opening for MEP is also a must.
The focus of this release is quite ambitious, to put all other “silos” under architect’s control.
By Roger C
#313128
Jp1138 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:04 pm
Well, I feel that for small firms there are not so much novelties. Python and Param-o are interesting, but more a long term thing. Mep integration instead of being a paying feature was a must. Maybe the new objects and textures are great, will see when our version comes out. Am I forgetting something? No new tools or mentions of fixing interface inconsistencies.

And the new integrations with Nemetschek products are understandable but worrying, as it seems to mark a departure from the openbim vision that Graphisoft has been defending until now.
Can't agree more. This focus on Nemetschek environment is understandable as worrying. We need to be able to introduce any software and join any team in our workflow, not only those who use Nemetschek products. Under this approach will be smaller year after year
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By LaszloNagy
#313130
There is a Help Center article that lists Archicad 24 hidden gems, the small enhancements in Archicad 24 that were not specifically mentioned in presentations:

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/127276/
By Alammouri
#313138
Actually I think AC24 has very great improvements, but for me and for small/medium firm it is disappointed.
But I can't say it is not necessary or not important.
I think Graphisoft should work on both side, while it works on BIM improvement it should work on renew old tools fix or update old ones.
I mean if every two years they update one tool it will take 10 years for get a complete new tools
(Door and windows sky light /cornerwin/ shell/roof/endwall/slab/ mesh and land scape/ramp ) all this tool need to recreat with ability of 3d editing.
And of course they should complete old tool .
For example.
Ramp tool should come with stair tool in AC 21
Open tool which came AC 23 .came with only cirle or rectangle shape and they said( in the conference and youtube channel) it will come in polygonal shape next updat :D :D now after 3 Update and a new version nothing happened .

again I think AC24 has great improvements but I am afraid while GS focus on big firm companies and compete revit I am afraid it loose their base of small and medium company