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By bouhmidage
#318317
The SAF format inspired me, this logic could be used in MEP in other sort,
MEP elements are " a block " with connections, inputs and outputs, a common format between all MEP softwares, that scribes theese inputs and outputs and " the block itself"
Inputs : common input parameter ,
Output ; Common output parameter
Block : geometry convertion
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By Moonlight
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29. If you are still going to communicate with the MEP plugin using a Macro, then I advise that "MEP_m_ConnectionsACL_4" would separate visibility option of Hotspots from that of the 3D body.
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By mnguyen
#318605
bouhmidage wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:25 pm The SAF format inspired me, this logic could be used in MEP in other sort,
MEP elements are " a block " with connections, inputs and outputs, a common format between all MEP softwares, that scribes theese inputs and outputs and " the block itself"
Inputs : common input parameter ,
Output ; Common output parameter
Block : geometry convertion

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Hello,

Thank you very much for sharing this idea! Personally I think that it's a great one!

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it to our Wish List database (please refer to it as Wish #12919). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you once again, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,
Minh
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By Moonlight
#318611
@bouhmidage

Where can we consult SAF format ??
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By mnguyen
#318651
bouhmidage wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:50 pm Thanks Mnguyen :D
Maybe like that it's more clear !

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Hello,

Thank you for the illustration! I attached it with the wish already. It would be a big help to our Product Management team!

Best regards,
Minh
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By Moonlight
#318658
@bouhmidage

Just few comments,
  1. As much as I can see the SAF Format, at least for now, it was geared towards Structural engineering, and not for MEP, and even then SAF format do have information about structural elements and spaces, and I do fail to see how would that be applied for MEP engineering, unless Nemetschek with other collaborating companies redefine SAF to include MEP data.
  2. Even if your answer would be let's just the geometry right now until Nemetschek modifies SAF to include MEP data for SAF, well what improvement does it holds against send files as IFC which can send and receive geometric structural and MEP data, and is also accepted with a longer list of BIM programs and platforms !!!!
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By bouhmidage
#318665
@Moonlight,
Well,
The ideai is not not to make .SAF format include MEP data, i mean, using the SAF logic to generate parametric MEP objects and MEP systems
the SAF is like nodes, linked with lines,
with analogy , the MEP new format is like the attachement

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if things will be standardised, now one will refuse to use the new format, except of the "monopole defenders" and we all know who are the monopole creators in the BIM field,
in the MEP world, manufacturers are the big player, no MEP without objects, if they adobt this solution, all softwares will move on, especially when we talk about a simplified sharing solution,
a file with lines, points and data, each software read and write in it according to it's logic
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