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Modelling and drafting in ARCHICAD. (Example: How can I model a Roof soffit/fascia?)

Moderators: Barry Kelly, Karl Ottenstein, LaszloNagy, ejrolon, gkmethy

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By Karl Ottenstein
#295940
Barry Kelly wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:14 am
Michael Gia wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:51 pm
Thanks, but if it’s part of the complex profile I won’t have control over where it appears and where I’d like a certain part of a wall not to have baseboard.
If you can upgrade to version 22, then you can use 'Modifiers' in your complex profiles.
So you can have your baseboard (skirting) that is stretchable in size.
To hide it simply stretch the height or width to zero.

Barry.
Thanks for adding that, Barry. And, Michael, you would use Partial Structure Display options to entirely turn the baseboard on or off for views thet need or don't need it (e.g., don't want the extra lifework on a floor plan).
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By Barry Kelly
#295946
Michael Gia wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:51 pm
"The image must be at least 0 pixels wide, 0 pixels high and at most 1920 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high. The submitted image is 1976 pixels wide and 1080 pixels high."
Your image is too wide.

As for the accessories, do you have the accessories library loaded as Richard suggested in an earlier post.
You will find it in the Archicad program folder when you install the goodies, but you have to load the library yourself.

Barry.
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By Steve Jepson
#296164
Michael Gia wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:31 pm
Hi, I’ve tried using the beam tool and magic wand some baseboards into a room and although it works well the baseboard runs across door openings.
Without having to go in and cut out the door spans and drag and mess around is there an automated way to do this?

I haven’t tried the baseboards in goodies only because I have yet to see a video of this going well also.

I really would like to stay within the program to accomplish the task of baseboards. In Revit you can add baseboards as “sweeps” to a wall profile.
I’m hoping there is some kind of secret Archicad option buried somewhere in the program.
I like to use object/library parts that you can adjust for length and miter for base and crown. But if you do like to use the Wall Accessory Tool you can play some trick with the zone boundaries around the doors and then you can delete the generated accessory you don't want.
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By Steve Jepson
#296165
if there is a "secret" to having no baseboard at the doors when you use the Wall Accessory Tool to automatically place it for you - it would be to add a node point in the edge of the zone/lines/fill... what ever you are using with the Wall Accessory Tool at the side of your door trim. It will still generate a base board there between the nodes but you can delete it easy enough and the rest of it will be correctly placed around the room, around the zone, along the lines...
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By Michael Gia
#296368
For anyone who’s also going down this rabbit hole of baseboards and in general millwork in Archicad, I’ll tell you what a seasoned architect told me regarding this.

He said, “a real Architect will show the baseboards and millwork in a cross section detail with model number and dimensions etc. We’re not trying to build a virtual Barbie house. Millwork in any floor plan will only add to the confusion of the important elements in a drawing which are the walls and structure.” Or something to that effect.

I’m coming from programs like Softplan and Chief Architect which are really efficient and intuitive for creating millwork. I was trying to bend Archicad against its will. Apparently Archicad isn’t intended for this type of superfluous detail. I’m only assuming this based on responses in this post and the fact that you won’t find one single video in the entire internet where someone adds a baseboard in an efficient manner to an Archicad drawing. There’s a reason for that. It doesn’t exist.
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By Richard Morrison
#296371
Certainly you aren't going to show millwork in a floor plan. There are good reasons to model it, though, since it will then show up in cross-sections, in interior elevations, and in the BimX model. Generally, if something shows up in multiple views, it's probably worth modeling.

Personally, if you can create a virtual Barbie house relatively easily, why not? Of course, I've only been a licensed architect for 36 years, so maybe I'm not a "real architect" yet.
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By Karl Ottenstein
#296374
Michael Gia wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:04 pm
He said, “a real Architect will show the baseboards and millwork in a cross section detail with model number and dimensions etc. We’re not trying to build a virtual Barbie house. Millwork in any floor plan will only add to the confusion of the important elements in a drawing which are the walls and structure.” Or something to that effect.
Many of us will disagree with the above quote, unless you replace the words "real architect" with "old school architect". Of course you wouldn't show trim in any view other than sections and 3D ... but why would you NOT show it in those views? If you provide a client with a virtual model for the free BIMx viewer ... wouldn't they want to see things trimmed out (at a certain point in design development)? A benefit of virtual building in 3D is that you can cut a section anywhere and see the right thing without having to detail the section manually, at a risk of future errors/omissions.

The fact that there are no videos of something doesn't mean that people aren't using profiles or accessories every day to accomplish it. It really isn't a big deal, particularly with the AC 22 parametric profiles.

Cheers,
Karl
By Michael Gia
#296377
Complex profiles, parametric or not only solve the problem of a adding a baseboard to a wall. You can’t change the material or color of the baseboard on the fly, or hide it for a given section of the wall. Sure you can edit the profile each time for this but that would mean cutting the wall at various locations and then editing the part of the wall’s complex profile where you want the change to happen.

I wish the beam tool simply had a button to select, “hide across door or wall openings”.
This would truly be a millwork tool without compromise.
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By Erwin Edel
#296415
We don't even model the plaster on the walls. I'm just a simple bachelor degree engineer though, so certainly not a real architect by our national standards :lol:

I want the shell of the building in my drawings, that's what I need for dimensions for the contractor. Trim and finishes are in the 2D detail drawings.
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By sboydturner
#296433
Michael Gia wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:48 am
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I wish the beam tool simply had a button to select, “hide across door or wall openings”.
This would truly be a millwork tool without compromise.
It would only take a few seconds to cut the beam at doors, I don’t see what the issue is with using beams I have done this to model coved vinyl skirtings across a whole hospital redevelopment and took no longer to model correctly than drawing 2d overlay in sections / int elevations

Scott