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What's your opinion about this wish?

Essential (5)
69
80%
Important (4)
13
15%
Average (3)
2
2%
Not important (2)
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1%
Not needed (1)
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1%
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By Da3dalus
#110833
Alas, AutoCAD 2008 has this one beat. AutoCAD's new Multileader object does everything that Labels should. The leader can start at the first or last line of text, it can contain multiple leaders, it has a wide range of editable marker shapes (or none) and it can be "scheduled" (as much as AutoCAD can extract data). They got us on this one (of course, it took them until now to make annotations self-scaling, and it works pretty badly). The Label tool needs an overhaul, but AT LEAST make it look right!

By the way, does anyone actually use the label tool with borders turned on? I would think that would be confusing on drawings.
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By Jere
#143640
Any idea if this is going to be fixed soon?

I like the idea of multiple leaders. I'm sure Revit can do this.

Personally, i like the idea of abolishing the separation between the text tool and the label tool. Text can simply be a label without a leader line. There should be the option to turn the leader line on or off, add multiple leader lines, etc.

Still....as always, essential.
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By Mike Hann
#143762
4 years since the first wish was posted, 77% of voters deem this essential, and what seems like a minimal amount of work on Graphisofts end for something that is used regularly. How I wish that the small things had just a little priority in Graphisofts eyes.
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By Da3dalus
#150451
I just figured I'd reiterate this one to keep the wishlist alive... FIX THE LEADER TOOL. I'm exploding a bunch right now in order to make them look OK. I can't blame my drafter, he thought he should use the label tool to make labels.
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By vfrontiers
#150452
Mike Hann wrote:4 years since the first wish was posted, 77% of voters deem this essential, and what seems like a minimal amount of work on Graphisofts end for something that is used regularly. How I wish that the small things had just a little priority in Graphisofts eyes.
I think we're right on schedule for an ArchiCAD 34 release!
#150461
Da3dalus wrote:...he thought he should use the label tool to make labels.
Silly drafter. Doesn't everyone know the chair tool is for labels?

Of course there is more to fix in the label tool than just the leader.
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By Paul King
#199194
It still astounds me that this has not been fixed after such a long time - as things stand, ArchiCAD handicaps just about every user who takes any pride in graphic appearance of labels
By strom
#231940
Firstly I'm astounded that someone 3 years ago was astounded. Then if you look down further someone is exposing that the OP has opened this thread in 2007 and now its 2014...

I was liking the feature that a Label could be saved as a favorite with default text to take care of common labels/text notes we use all the time on drawings. When I tried to do the same with text. This default function is not available. Either the following could be done to essentially and significantly speed up drafting tasks for Archicad Users.

1.Text has a default text like Label has default text
2.Labels have a switch to turn off leaders

Apparently we need a new renderer in ArchiCAD 18. This appears to be more important to Graphisoft than users getting tools that have more functionality that will give users the time to complete tasks to use the Rendering engine. I note this post has been going for quite some time. The essential nature of quick drafting tasks seems to be lost to the developer of this software. Or are they saving this for BIM features in the future "drop a column your text is automatic".

We are being drip feed non-essential changes that are "nice" to have without consideration to Graphisoft considering the speed of common documentation tasks that they could start to overhaul and compete with Revit on.
Last edited by strom on Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
#231941
strom wrote:Or are they saving this for BIM features in the future "drop a column your text is automatic".
You can do that now - with any element.
Make sure the label style you want is associated to the element type in the label tool settings.
Then in the element settings make sure you tick the option to "Label Elements" and then when you place that element the label will automatically appear.

Rather than saving default text favourites for the content of the text (I do this for style, size, layer, etc., though) I either have a hole bunch of notes off to the side in my template that I can drag, drop and edit as needed or I have objects saved - some as standard notes and some as editable notes.

Barry.