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True inline Attributes

Yes
15
94%
Maybe
1
6%
No
No votes
0%
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By runxel
#326776
At the moment all attributes you define inline will be added to the project.
This is clearly nonsense and just pollutes the attributes list.
(Ever downloaded a window from bimobjects just to find you suddenly have 2000 new materials? :evil: )

We need the ability to have true inline attributes, meaning attributes, that are only available inside the object that defined them.
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By Barry Kelly
#326791
runxel wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:54 am We need the ability to have true inline attributes, meaning attributes, that are only available inside the object that defined them.

I absolutely agree.

Barry.
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By Aaron Bourgoin
#326792
runxel wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:54 am At the moment all attributes you define inline will be added to the project.
This is clearly nonsense and just pollutes the attributes list.
(Ever downloaded a window from bimobjects just to find you suddenly have 2000 new materials? :evil: )

We need the ability to have true inline attributes, meaning attributes, that are only available inside the object that defined them.
The worst one we ever downloaded were the KLING Loading Dock Objects. They create RAL surfaces (192) and the whole thing behaves like a virus without our ever having placed a single object in a file.
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By Braza
#326818
Yes. This is very annoying. :roll:
But for me nothing is worse than an Attribute Avalanche by a bunch of hotlinked modules. :twisted:
So I voted Maybe... Until we have a Dedicated Shared Resource File that would surely address this issue.
Sorry for the advertising. :mrgreen:
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By Kristian Bursell
#326829
In order to use manufacturers object libraries we need TRUE inline attributes.

I actually thought this was the case with all attributes as it is for Surfaces but I just tested Fills and was very disappointed to find the attributes polluted.

I do think that Fills are less important than Surfaces as we should be using industry standards for material representation with Fills, so there should not be custom fills coming in from external content (in an ideal world, which sounds like a ludicrous term to even say in this day and age). Last year I completed a project for Knauf plasterboard in which we created an automatic attribute generator; one of the key considerations was to ensure we only use OOTB Archicad Fills. Though this contents purpose was to populate attributes we still wanted to be efficient and not create unnecessary attributes.

Has anyone tested Lines
Fills - No: I just tested, as other have, and confirmed they do populate the attributes.
Surfaces - Yes: from my test just then and all the content I have created that has inline surfaces they do NOT populate the attributes.
Lines - ??
By DGSketcher
#326842
I had this attribute pollution from a BIMcomponents window manufacturer which introduced their full colour pallet. As a consequence I try avoid using their components for this reason. In an ideal world I agree, non-generic component attributes should be self contained.
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By Barry Kelly
#326843
Kristian Bursell wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:07 am Has anyone tested Lines

Lines defined in an object script do create new attributes as well.


Barry.
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By mnguyen
#328255
Hi All,

Thank you very much for creating this poll, and for those of you who voted to express their opinion.

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it to our Wish List database (please refer to it as IDEA-1290). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you all once more, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,
Minh