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Sharing a project for a team, accessing projects remotely. Setup of BIMcloud/Users/Roles, Working/Messaging in Teamwork (Example: What are the firewall settings for the BIMcloud to make it accessible over the Internet?)

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By agroni
#298822
hi,
is it possible that a Teamwork file on the BIMcloud22 shows the file size including all snapshots (backups)???
One of our files has 6.7Gb and just by duplicating it (in BIMcloud) the file size dropped to 2.3Gb!

The duplicated file does not have the backups, hence my only explanation for the file reduction.
Or did somehow also the Cache got clean by this duplication?
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By Christophe Fortineau
#298839
Hello,

Could you specify where do you view the weight of these files and their format?
A shared file is neither a pln nor a pla nor even a file itself but rather a database, compare them is not relevant. It is also common to note that a PLN file will correspond to a heavier shared project in teamwork via BimCloud. I have not yet found that a PLN is heavier than its shared version via BimCloud. Often, you export a PLN file from BimCloud to purge it of obsolete resources and then redistribute it to get a much lighter sharing project ... But I have not looked into the cause yet.
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By agroni
#298842
What I meant was solely projects that are stored on the BIMcloud. It has nothing to do with a PLN, since I am also aware about differentiation in file size between PLN and a BIMcloudproject.
In the BIMcloudManager there is an option to duplicate a project. This duplication occurs directly in the BIMcloudManager, hence noticed the file reduction.

I wanted to investigate a case about the file size and one of the options was to duplicate this BIMcloudProject. Dropping from 6,7 to 2.3 Gb just by duplicating, is for me a very big misterious step.
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By Christophe Fortineau
#298849
Yes I understood well and I know this manipulation well if I use it too little. But the strong finding that a BimCloud file repatriated locally and then shared again can lose a lot of weight is a track of understanding that I thought interesting to submit.
By nbalogh
#299226
Hi,

Size of a Teamwork project can easily be decreased as it lose all ballast - information from inactive user's cache, for example. From this point, duplication is similar to a re-share.

It's only an educated guess, but in extreme situations, when for example a user is inactive for a year or more, it is possible to lose that amount of data what you mentioned.

Kind regards,
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By agroni
#299250
nbalogh wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:19 pm
It's only an educated guess, but in extreme situations, when for example a user is inactive for a year or more, it is possible to lose that amount of data what you mentioned.
It is probably what you are stating here, sadly i cannot dive deeper and look at the file.
But one thing here is for sure that there were no inactive users for more then a week. In addition the teamfile had been previously (around two months ago) deleted and reuploaded to the BIMcloud. That is the reason why it caught my attention, that in such a small amount of time the file of this project simply exploaded. It was gaining 1Gb per week!

Currently I am monitoring this file, and so far it is growing, but not at that previous rate.
By nbalogh
#299252
agroni wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:25 am
nbalogh wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:19 pm
It's only an educated guess, but in extreme situations, when for example a user is inactive for a year or more, it is possible to lose that amount of data what you mentioned.
It is probably what you are stating here, sadly i cannot dive deeper and look at the file.
But one thing here is for sure that there were no inactive users for more then a week. In addition the teamfile had been previously (around two months ago) deleted and reuploaded to the BIMcloud. That is the reason why it caught my attention, that in such a small amount of time the file of this project simply exploaded. It was gaining 1Gb per week!

Currently I am monitoring this file, and so far it is growing, but not at that previous rate.
Another simple idea, that some DWGs were exploded and deleted from the file lately? I don't know. I recommend to contact your local support (A-null, if I'm right) with a Support Package if the file size grows that fast again.