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By Jay Garbarino
I created a simple pier footing w/ Sono tube using the new Column tool functionality.
I wanted to create a schedule of these pier footings.
I can not seem to find the "field" for the thickness of the bottom of the column (footing).

It has been years since I have been on the forum...I can not see how to attach a screenshot. (There it is down below)
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Does it help if you change your criteria element type from 'Column' to 'Column Segment'?
I have not tried scheduling these new columns and beams yet, but I know you can schedule the individual segments.

Thank you barry for the idea. I found the criteria of Column Segment" under ..more.

That produced a different row for each "segment". For me, that is not what I wanted. Also, I still could not get the Thickness (or Height) of the lower segment to report in the schedule.
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By LaszloNagy
You can use the "3D Length" Schedule Field to generate the segment length of Column Segments.
By the way, you can use the combination of the Parent ID and Element ID fields so you always know which segment of which Column it is.

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Thank you for the 3D length field help. My issue is that I do NOT want the Pier Footing separated within the schedule, with rows for the Footing (lower column segment) and a row for the Sonotube (upper segment).

Using the Element Type Criteria as "Column" The 3d Length is the complete height of the Footing and Sono tube.
Sorry, I don't know any way that would make it possible to list in a Column Schedule a Column Segment geometry parameter.

The only thing I can think of is to create a Property for the Column, which would be a Length type Property, enter for its value the value you have specified for the thickness of that Column base, and schedule that value.
Of course, this is not automatic, you have to specify the value manually, and if that Column base thickness value changes, you have to modify the value of the Property as well.

Not very BIM-like but at least you can schedule it.
Thanks for the help
I may continue to model the Pier footing base and the Pier "stem" Sonotube/Pilaster separate. It was nice to have them as one part with the new Column tool, but I would rather have the values automated.
It was a nice idea while it lasted.