Really unfortunate to have a download (or upload) quota that results in speed down-ramping! I lived with that for years when I only had satellite internet access ... which would have prevented me from doing much of my work these days, as once they slowed you down, it was slow for days.
rwallis wrote:You mentioned we only have to download the libraries the first time - is AC13 intelligent enough to remember a previous download (say a few days earlier) and update that one, or is a fresh download of the project library triggered upon each new opening of a file?
The path to the library is basically <servername>/<library name> So, no matter how many projects you 'join' on that server, there will only be one copy of the library downloaded - when you join the first project.
If the library is changed - a hotfix or a local edit, then the new version needs to be uploaded to the server by someone ... then all joined users will receive whatever has changed (it could be a big LCF, or just a single part) when they do a Receive Changes.
I suspect CADIMAGE and other add-on makers must be upset - there is one way to reduce this headache and that is to load a minimal library set...which has implications for them....(i.e. their non-use!)
I don't think so. Those libraries are not so big, and again would be downloaded once, regardless of the number of projects ... assuming one worked with only a single BIM Server.
In our office we use a login script to sync all libraries on workstations with the server. Job specific libraries are the only ones that load across the network when we open a project. Even in the office we will now face a huge increase in network traffic, as whole libraries are downloaded every time we open a new file. Surely this has an effect on open file times?
A synch approach like that is a pretty standard procedure (or should be). But, now, that only affects solo projects, not TW.
The traffic will be great if a number of people join at the same instance - 100's of MB will likely be transferred upon first joining a project. (There is no traffic issue after this initial joining.) But, it has no subsequent effect when opening any of the various projects that one has already joined. Opening an already joined project is pretty instantaneous. Again, the library will not be downloaded when you open, nor will it be downloaded as you join each shared project. It will be downloaded just once when you join the first project on a particular server.
You can stay joined to as many projects as you want for as long as you want. As long as you've released your reservations, you have zero impact on the project. If you open such a joined project, it will check the server to see if changes need to be received, etc, but the libraries will not download again unless they were changed on the server.
Aside: on the BIM server we now must have heaps of storage for all the (duplicate!) libraries for each project? With the increased network traffic, I can see a dedicated server must be almost mandatory.
The server will not have duplicates. The workstation will. The workstation will have the standard libraries (that you are synching), and when it joins a project from the server, it will get another copy of all of those libraries. But, there will only be as many copies as there are servers - not as many copies as there are shared projects.
That said, projects on the server are stored in a database, not in a single PLP file, and they are stored in such a way as to facilitate rapid delta updates. This results in additional storage consumed over a comparable PLN file. So, yeah, the server should have ample fast storage, memory and a good connection. See the specifications here:http://www.archicadwiki.com/Teamwork/Bi ... cification
and additional notes specs here (under the 'well equipped' section that addresses projects of different sizes):http://www.archicadwiki.com/Teamwork/Bi ... figuration
To browse related articles about TW2, visit the root article here:http://www.archicadwiki.com/Teamwork
Graphisoft staff are busy fleshing out all of the topics there, and of course, more info will be added to even the existing articles with time and experience.
It looks overwhelming, but it really is pretty simple and fun. But, every firm has a different network. Some firms who have only creative staff (as opposed to an IT person, or a tech-head like me) may find the setup to be challenging or may just be uncomfortable with getting things organized ... and so may want to get help from their reseller, or from any number of us who do consulting.
Regarding "issue 2", this too is very disappointing. For those who don't bring our home computers into the office, the loss of the ability to take files home on removable storage is a big step backward.
I think nearly everyone will agree.